Tone in, Tone on, Drop out: 10 Ways to Study Chinese which are More Useful than Going to Class

Updated 2 weeks, 2 days ago

Source: http://benross.net/

So you read my last post and now you’re motivated. You’ve been intimidated a long time, but now that you understand Chinese is only difficult in the beginning, you’re ready to make the jump and begin your studies. What’s next? Maybe you should……take a class……right? Wrong!

I’ve often observed that when eager students are choosing to embark on the study of a foreign language, the natural inclination is to take a class. Learn the language in the classroom, then possibly go abroad (or start ...

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tawk_about 2 weeks, 2 days ago on Twitter

Ben Ross's 10 ways to learn Chinese (instead of a class): http://bit.ly/44oGPh

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Benjamin Ross 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress

@Peter

I just started watching 奋斗 and think it’s going to make a nice little learning project to get through. Immediately, I noticed that it appears to be quite realistic, a trait not commonly found in Chinese TV. Specifically, it is the first Chinese TV show I’ve ever watched where you can look at the surroundings (streets, living rooms, net bars, etc.) and say “That really
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Jiang 3 months, 3 weeks ago on Wordpress

@Dabeiyao, (國1573窖) is not a Maotai ad. It is another wine ad. The wine is 泸州老窖, a competitor of Maotai.

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Benjamin Ross 3 months, 3 weeks ago on Wordpress

I agree with Chris on this one. Cross cultural relationships tend to establish themselves in a single language, and it’s virtually impossible to change this down the line. So if your girlfriend’s English is better than your Chinese (funny how nobody mentions Chinese boyfriends), you’re going to begin your relationship in English, and her English will improve dramatically with little ... See all content

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chriswaugh_bj 3 months, 3 weeks ago on Wordpress

Alister, girlfriends and other significant others generally tend to be really bad teachers. They’re good for proofreading and ironing out odd little quirks of grammar, but little more. If you want to use such a person to improve your Chinese, you need to be able to hold down an intelligent conversation in Chinese before you even meet him/her. Otherwise, the relationship is too close for a healthy ... See all content

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Alister 3 months, 4 weeks ago on Wordpress

You didn’t mention spending the summer in China for a holiday or as an exchange program. This is by far the best way and you could still get a teach but it would be far cheaper because your in China. You also didn’t add getting a Chinese girlfriend

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Benjamin Ross 3 months, 4 weeks ago on Wordpress

@Tina

I’ve never used Pimsleur, but I have used Chinesepod and think it’s an excellent resource, and probably should have included a plug for it in my original post (sorry John).

However, I am going to disagree with you on your point that Chinese people disagree on how to mispronounce words, and that occasionally you need to use the local pronunciation to be understood
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Peter Jeziorek 4 months ago on Wordpress

Carrying a notebook to record anything and everything, and flipping through it during your spare time is key.

I also want to suggest a TV show: 奋斗 fen4dou4, a recently popular TV show about recent college graduates and their life pursuits.

The other (11) that I would add to this list is to go out and read comic books. I bought the entire 42 book Dragonball series (七龙珠) , and have
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Xuexiansheng 4 months ago on Wordpress

@formerchaoyanger – Thanks for the Deutchewelle site. And I’ll check out those travel videos. There was a really good Travel program I was watching with a Canadian guy (not DaShan!) and a female native chinese travelling all around China that was really interesting and a great language resource, but I’ve lost it….I was produced prob 2004-7 if anyone can find it on the web… ... See all content

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Matt Schiavenza 4 months ago on Wordpress

Having thought about this a bit more I’m inclined to agree with Chris- I do think there’s some merit to studying Chinese in a formal classroom setting. The problem though is that not all of us have the time and financial resources to devote ourselves strictly to Chinese study; typically teaching and other work-related responsibilities tend to dominate our schedules in China.

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Dabeiyao 4 months ago on Wordpress

Great post, great comments!

I agree with taking advantage of every situation to learn and use Chinese. I think a well-organized class with an experienced teacher can help introduce useful language, create effective speaking contexts and provide correction, but not all schools, textbooks or teachers are ideal.

To add to the notebook suggestion – I have painstakingly filled a
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chriswaugh_bj 4 months ago on Wordpress

Ben, you make some very good points, but I do believe you have grossly overstated the uselessness of the classroom. The classroom is limited and limiting, but it is better for learning all those boring, frustrating, but utterly essential formal aspects of the language- things like tones and standard pronunciation, grammar, and formal reading and writing. In other words, the street is limited in the ... See all content

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formerchaoyanger 4 months ago on Wordpress

I agree with most of your comments especially from your own experience. I spent several years engrossed in Chinese classes and didn’t really bloom till I’ve started spending lots of time studying on own outside of them. I also have some recommendations for media given that it took me a long time to find things that were interesting. For news, the voice of Germany or 德国之声 is amazing especially ... See all content

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canrun 4 months ago on Wordpress

I think you’ve become the Chinese version of a Weeaboo.

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uberVU - social comments 4 months ago on Wordpress

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This post was mentioned on Twitter by BenRoss: Trying to learn Chinese? Planning to take classes? I say don’t waste your time. Here’s why. http://tinyurl.com/yd6z725…

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Tina 4 months ago on Wordpress

Great ideas, though I personally found Pimsleur and Chinesepod helped me the most with speaking and university helped with the tones.

Everyone is different and how one person learns may be completely different from the next. Some excel in a school environment, others in finding Chinese friends, ( that being said, even the Chinese disagree on how to pronounce words), while friends prefer private
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maxiewawa 4 months ago on Wordpress

Five stars! I Like This Post!

My only suggestion would be that instead of carrying around a notebook or flashcards, you try something a little more hi tech. I use my iPod touch to take notes and make flashcards.

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Yang Kun 4 months ago on Wordpress

Great suggestions! I especially appreciated the “Get drunk” because I’ve also benefited from this confidence booster. And honestly, Chinese people relate better to me when I’m drunk.

I think there are two points that should be made.

1. Getting a language partner is usually a waste of time for most native English speakers. On other blogs we’ve discussed
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BenRoss 4 months ago on Twitter

Trying to learn Chinese? Planning to take classes? I say don't waste your time. Here's why. http://tinyurl.com/yd6z725

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