Nullifying National Health Care in Kansas

3 months ago on Intensedebate

Cory,

States should be able to do exactly what you say but over time the Federal government has leveraged itself into state business in such a was as to make it impractical to do any thing but go along. It is treated more like "business" among the states and not the rule of law. The biggest problem, other than the 17th Amendment, is that states, over time, have allowed the Federal government to collect tax money from their citizens with the expectation that that collected money will be returned and spent within their states. A recipe for disaster because the Federal government can simply withhold or refuse payment to any state that does not go along with "any" deal they cook up. Where in the Constitution does it say that the Federal government must return collected tax money to a state that balks?

Regaining state sovereignty is going to take a new or self reinvented breed of state legislatures willing to tackle direct Federal taxation of their people. An easy case can be made today that Federal spending is irresponsible, unsustainable, and detrimental to state prosperity which therefore represents criminal misuse of the collective resources of the citizens of the various states. ... See all content Hide content

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3 months ago on Intensedebate

States have the right to ignore any law passed by the federal government that pertains to any "right" not specifically granted in the constitution. State governments are co-equal to the federal government. Only when a "right" granted to the federal government ( the post office for example ) in the constitution, does the federal government have "supremacy" otherwise the states and the people retain all other rights. ... See all content Hide content

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State Sovereignty: Health Care Freedom Rally | Tenth Amendment Center Blog 3 months ago on Wordpress

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Multiple United States – Nullifying Government Attempt At Dictating Health Rationing Insurance « Political Vel Craft 3 months, 1 week ago on Wordpress

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3 months, 1 week ago on Intensedebate

i'm in the wrong state. should have moved to texas or kansas i guess.

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Monorprise 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress

We could do the Federal Tax escrow account thing(going to need to look into it eventually), and short of that the State could order its law enforcement officers to arrest any IRS agent that that tryst to arrest any state citizen for not paying the unconstitutional tax. Just be sure they get tried in State not federal court clam the federal court being in-appropriate due to the matter of punitive taxes on healthcare not being under the Federal Constitution.

When they act like “o of course it is cause we said it is, I’m a federal agent I can do what ever I want.” give em a weird look like you don’t know what their talking about or their nuts or something.

Ultimately, the plain would be to challenge it in federal court on both jurisdiction and constitutional grounds making as big an issue of it as possible. We want to paint them as what they are horrible usurpers of rights trying to grab unlimited power at the expense of the people and Constitutional law.

When looking over nullification disputes it seems clear that the States only win when the public is generally on their side as sympathetic, so we need to win that battle above all.

Play the oppressed victim of an out of control crazy central government respecting no limits on their dictates.

All that being said a State Constitutional Amendment will at the very least prevent the State government from trying to impose this abomination on us should the Feds hopefully fail. So I regard this as it time well spent either way. ... See all content Hide content

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Monorprise 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress

I agree, as I said before, sooner or later We are going to have to get serous about disregarding the Opinion of the U.S. Supreme court being unfair arbitrators of their own appointer/impeachers power.

This is going to be a hard sell for a lot of people, but this is why a lot of our efforts need to focuses on undermining the legitimacy of the Federal court in this regard. States can do nothing to uphold their oath and duty to protect the rights of their people if they allow the federal dictators on the court to dictate the extent of their own power.

We are going to have to find a way where people will: "Let the court enforce the courts ruling". There is just no way around that fact. ... See all content Hide content

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3 months, 2 weeks ago on Intensedebate

how about stop paying taxes,,, or secession

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3 months, 2 weeks ago on Intensedebate

But how do we stop the IRS from charging us for it. We can't. So now we pay twice and the Administration will be keeping all the money. Those of us that have to support Nevada (Florida) will be paying three times. I will need a loan just to pay taxes.

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3 months, 2 weeks ago on Intensedebate

Important point, Kevin. That, of course, leaves us with the essential question - Shoudl a movement focused on limiting federal power be focusing strategy based on what the federal courts will approve of? Or, should they focus their efforts on what they can do in their own state - with or without \\\"permission\\\" from the federal courts or federal politicians? I choose the latter.

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Michael Boldin 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress

Important point, Kevin.

That, of course, leaves us with the essential question –

Shoudl a movement focused on limiting federal power be focusing strategy based on what the federal courts will approve of?

Or, should they focus their efforts on what they can do in their own state – with or without “permission” from the federal courts or federal politicians?

I choose the latter. ... See all content Hide content

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3 months, 2 weeks ago on Intensedebate

Amending a state constitution is an interesting approach, but unfortunately the courts have not been shy in throwing out state constitutional provisions. The people of Colorado passed one several years ago and the Supreme Court threw it out (it was called Amendment 2). If Congress does pass a mandatory medical program for all U.S. citizens I am planning on introducing a resolution in Colorado based on the authority of the Tenth Amendment. Resolutions have no direct force of law, but I see it as a first step to put the Federal Government on notice of their violation of the U.S. Constitution. Given the political mix in the Colorado legislature the passage of even a resolution is doubtful, but as a members of the Colorado State Senate I can do no less. ... See all content Hide content

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NANCYHRUSSELL 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress

WHAT A WONDERFUL SOLUTION TO THIS FASCIST GOVERMENT. I HOPE EVERYONE EMAILS THEIR SENS AND REPS TO DEMAND THEIR STATE DO THE SAME THING. THIS IS A WAY TO PROVE THE STATES HAVE POWER.

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3 months, 2 weeks ago on Intensedebate

We expect to see upwards of 15+ states introducing some kind of state-level health care nullification legislation in the 2010 session. Going to be hard to make any national program stick if that many states end up saying no....

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