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Retirement Community Tries to Evict Six-Year-Old Girl
Updated 3 months, 1 week ago
Source: http://blogs.babble.com/
Looking for a little compassion? You won’t find it in Clearwater, Florida. A retirement community there is working hard to evict its youngest resident — a six-year-old girl who lives with her grandparents. If they’re successful, the child could be placed in foster care.
Jimmy and Judy Stottler have been legal guardians of their granddaughter Kimberly for about four years, after her mother lost custody due to a chronic drug problem. But their Home Owners Association bylaws ...
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Andrea 3 months, 1 week ago on Wordpress
I have no doubt that they’re trying to get out as fast as they possibly can. What do you suppose this family’s life is like surrounded by neighbors like this? And the people saying “just move!” are showing an obvious class bias. I don’t know about this family’s finances, but many people literally can’t “just move”. Moving is expensive (even a crappy ... See all content
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jenny tries too hard 3 months, 1 week ago on Wordpress
Toby’s comment about taxes changes everything. Now that their granddaughter is old enough to use the public schools, no way should they continue to live in a community that is exempt from school taxes. I’m kinda miffed that these communities don’t pay school taxes, anyway, though—Do they not get that they are beneficiaries of the local school system, if they use a doctor, nurse ... See all content
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Sue 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
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Fine, you want these people to end up in Hell populated with children. What do you suppose the children will have done to deserve to be in Hell.
Also, it is true that the vast majority of the members of the community are most likely Baby Boomers not the Greatest Generation.
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Tom 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
I have a similar post on my blog. “Gated Community in Kissimmee” is very anti-family, and the ‘resort’ is not even 55+ community. http://retirehappier.wordpress.com/2009/10/20/define-retirement-part-two-get-a-life/
The main point is IMHO, is to qualify for the 55+ you first must be a HUMAN BEING, perhaps the little girl can enforce that aspect of the “Rules”
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mommiedear 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
I think it is time for the community to come together and allow the child to stay with the grandparents. Its not like they havent been trying to sell the home noone is buying the market is sluggish to say the least. This is no reason to shunt a loved child with primary caregivers into a over burdened foster care system which already has such a rate of abuse and neglect.There have been many back and ... See all content
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Kikiriki 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
ITA Eric - maybe we should start “no one over 50″ communities. What is the difference? I’ve been way more annoyed by an old person acting like a jerk than I have been by a kid - by the time they reach old age, people should know better than to act the way some of them act (worse than children). Why is it not discriminatory to make rules against children living in an area?
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two cents ¢¢ 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
If I move to a place where there ‘are no kids allowed, save for short visits’ then I do NOT expect any exceptions. Otherwise it will be over-run with kids. Why not this exception, why not that one? All the boo-hoo stories. These people, perhaps through no fault of their own, raised a crappy daughter. They are trying to do the right thing: they simply have to bite the bullet and MOVE.
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Ann 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
These people have had plenty of time to find an amenable solution, and apparently well before the housing bubble burst in FL. This started back in 2005…and housing was still chugging along. They could have sold, which was the only solution to keep the girl (after all,t hey signed a contract.) They chose not to. I find it funny that people won’t bat an eyelash about HOAs banning dogs, or ... See all content
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misterhat 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
You're not right though, dog owners can go on any sidewalk they want. And technically, I can let my (hypothetical) dog shit where ever I want it to; I just have to clean it up.
Let me guess, you're a recent graduate who is under/unemployed. I had a friend like you who got some counseling and it really helped him out. Once his additude changed he was actually able to get a decent job.
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sotonohito 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
>Do you also think it should be illegal for unions to force membership for everyone that works there?
No.
>If not, what's the difference?
Benefit vs. cost.
Which, I'll freely admit, is likely to be quite subjective. I, personally, see great benefit from unions. They produce better pay, better benefits (health care, vacations, etc), and help offset the one sided
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KimLBidwell 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Twitter
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insomniac84 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
You are an entitled mama's boy who thinks everyone on earth is here to cater to you and your dogs.
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daemmon 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
Yes, because even though there is no evidence, it is probably true that every single resident supports the HOA's decision. Based on the anecdotes throughout this thread of Redditors' experiences with their own HOAs, that certainly would be a reasonable assumption.
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rhetoricalanswer 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
> Do you also think it should be illegal for unions to force membership for everyone that works there?
The correct answer is yes.
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DaPM 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
Nope - I am saying that the grandparents are punishing their granddaughter by refusing to move out of their over 55 housing. They had 4 years to resolve this, and only decided to try selling their house after legal action was taken against them.
It is the grandparents who are sending her to a foster home by not moving to a place that allows kids - the development only prevents them from living
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vostran 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
Oh this is easy.
Resident is a legal term, minors don't operate in legal places, therefore, minors can not be residents. Minors can not sign the form to agree or not to be there, therefore they can't agree to the policy, legal only once signed, and therfore they can't be held to it's rather discriminating standards.
Minors are not consenting legal entitys.
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Eric 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
I hate very few things, but I HATE homeowner’s associations. They don’t pay any part of the mortgage so they can take their uptight little rulebook and cram it. I’ve never even heard of a 55+ requirement before. That is insanity. If we had “no one over 50″ communities these same people would be crying ‘ageism.’ I agree that kids these days don’t have ... See all content
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Artmageddon 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
Sorry, should've been more specific-Trenton, Nj, in one of the better areas as well.
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IrrelevantElephant 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
What's a dead yard? A yard with nothing in it?
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brufleth 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
I understand there's need for some oversight. I've dealt with city electrical and building inspectors though. It was concerning a building I was renting in that had some electrical work done that violated city and state regulations.
They had zero interest in helping me because it actually would have required something beyond signing a form and going back to their office for a nap.
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EvadSdrawkcab 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
This is what happens when people stop having to worry about something more important than what their neighbors are doing.
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stevedclarke 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
Fucking old people. Makes me wanna go play on their lawns.
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stevedclarke 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
Actually I was referring to the old people that were trying to evict the granddaughter...
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Knitty 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
So this is what the esteemed members of the Greatest Generation are up to these days.
BigDuke, I’ve been wondering the same. If they’re allowed to discriminate against a child, why not black people, Chinese people, gays? Are they allowed to set up discriminatory statues to keep out anyone they don’t want around? How is this legal?
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aaronhowland 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Twitter
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captain_tenille 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Twitter
Man, fuck you mean old people: http://bit.ly/1NGZgS
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coolteamblt 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
I had a similar problem with my in-laws. They live in a 55+ trailer park, and they watch our ten month old while we were at work. The HOA issued a complaint against them having an infant at their home for 40+ hours a week. We had to find a new daycare provider over the issue!
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EditorLiam 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Twitter
A Florida Retirement Community is trying to evict a six year old girl http://twurl.nl/a1z2ds
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BigDuke 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
I have never understood and will never understand why HOAs are allowed to make obviously discriminatory by-laws. Why can’t HOAs have by-laws that prevent black people from living in a community? These old arrogant people are the same ones that refuse to pay school taxes because they are retired and don’t have kids at home. We live in a society! I don’t think fireman under the age ... See all content
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Alison 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
The couple inherited the property from her mother and they are not very well off. This house is their only asset. Some people have suggested that the community is probably using this as an excuse to get rid of neighbors they feel are not “their sort of people.”
This couple didn’t intend to become their granddaughter’s guardian, they only intended to watch her for a
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brlittle 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Twitter
I can't stand HOA's. I'm also fairly put out by self-righteous old people. http://is.gd/4wex6
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jenny tries too hard 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
I understand that, ri-chan, but maybe the neighbors would rather rent to a pair of 50-somethings than deal with the homeowners and their granddaughter. The home I am renting was not technically supposed to be a rental property because of the HOA, but they made an exception when the homeowner hit hard times, moved in with her daughter, and couldn’t sell the house for over two years. It was clear ... See all content
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jasongorman 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Twitter
people + rules + authority --> fascism http://tinyurl.com/yjzo7vk
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required 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Wordpress
maybe they should have thought about the rules of the community and the contract they signed before they took the kid in? not like it’s a surprise or anything. just foster the kid up then you don’t have to worry about moving and your neighbors will finally be happy.
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SigningElle 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Twitter
"Just because you're right doesn't make it right." http://ow.ly/vXy3
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johnheltsley 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Twitter
FL community trying to evict a 6-year old, which would put her into foster care. WTF, have a heart! http://bit.ly/4o6JaR
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outofmyarse 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Twitter
A six-year-old girl could go to foster care after a retirement community has her evicted from her grandparent's.. http://bit.ly/T4e9I
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daytrader2010 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
So she breaks the rules and somehow we must make an exception for her? What makes her so special? I say send her to foster house, hopefully a place with violent and abusive guardians. Then we'll see how fast this home sells.
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had3l 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
I agree completely, but sometimes you can't just blindly follow the law, you have to have compassion. As long as they are clearly trying to sell their house and move, it's inhumane to at least not let the kid live inside the house (maybe ban her from wondering outside alone meanwhile). They didn't choose to take the kid in, they had no choice (other than foster care).
Think about it, if it
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omicron8 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
> Jimmy and Judy Stottler have been legal guardians of their granddaughter Kimberly for about four years.
It seems to me like they have been patient. Surely she can rent her place and use the money to rent another property somewhere else until the housing market becomes more active.
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l0de 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
It's a RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.
For old people, not for kids. If they don't like it, they can move. It's no different than someone getting an annoying, yappy dog in a no-pets apartment building, they knew they couldn't keep that thing and did anyway. If they weren't bothering people with the kid, there wouldn't be any complaints.
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_tenken 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
a temporary situation is not "4 years". And the area is zoned for people ages 55 and over. They shouldn't have even been able to get her into the housing in the first place. I have a friend aged 55 and over that was on disability after a stroke and managed to rent a unit from a similar HOA setup -- they have a ton of rules. Once his doctor said he was better the disability stopped and he had to go ... See all content
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silverstrike 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
You have zero remorse, because you assume that the girl would be better off with strangers?
I hope that's not the distillation of what you said. And if it is, you're not very familiar with children.
>I don't really see someone 55 or over taking care of a child that has to goto kindergarden, girl scouts, the park, movies
By that logic, they'd be better of having left
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vandalhearts 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
I wonder what happens to compassion and understanding in all these old people? I really hope I don't turn into some bitter, lonely old coot, yelling at kids to get off my lawn as I get older. I really wanted to punch that smug president of the homeowners association.
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rainrunner 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
>I really hope I don't turn into some bitter, lonely old coot, yelling at kids to get off my lawn as I get older.
If this happens to me, I hope I kill myself.
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unit157 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
I work in a property management company that manages communities similar to this nature.
I can tell you from direct experience that people in these communities get very caught up in their documents and hardly ever stop to consider the ramifications of that enforcement.
I have seen people (of all ages) get in a screaming match over a garage door that was left open (in a homeowners'
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daytrader2010 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
Well look: these people pay a lot, they respect the rules themselves, and their neighbor feel superior and down? The rules are clear. What's wrong with people? How hard is it to follow rules as simple as closing a fucking door??
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inkypinkyblinkyclyde 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
But why is it legal to discriminate against children when it is not for other reasons (race, sexual orientation, etc)?
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TheGhostRedditor 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
I HATE people and their damn bylaws. My friend just had the house of their dreams stripped out of their hands by a Homeowners Association President on a power trip. He said he would "let them" have 2 cats, but no more because they have a strict rule about animals... Really? Indoor cats disturb you? Some rules like this help a community, but then it all gets screwed up when someone useless gets at the ... See all content
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thilehoffer 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
Some old people suck. I walk my dogs in a retirement community full of modular homes (high end though). 85% of the people are really nice, we stop and chat with them sometimes and stuff.
But one day this lady (who had just had grass seed put down) started yelling at us letting our dogs on her grass. Clearly we saw the grass seed and yanked our dog off right away. Maybe it made one foot print
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Fat_Dumb_Americans 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
Answer her question: "Why don't you walk your dogs in your own neighborhood?"
You let your dog step on her seeding lawn and I am guessing that it pisses and shits around their streets too.
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thilehoffer 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
It is one block away from my house. It is my neighborhood. No I pick up after my dog, so it doesn't leave any shit.
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Artmageddon 3 months, 2 weeks ago on Reddit
I remember walking through my neighborhood in Trenton when I was like 5 or 6 years old, and I'd be walking on the sidewalk with some friends of mine. I remember walking by some old person's home who came out to scream at me to get away from his house and stay off his lawn, lest he threatened to call the cops... which really confused me because I stayed on the sidewalk and never screwed around with ... See all content
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