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I had very interesting conversations and strategy sessions with my clients lately, and noticed peculiar things in the market as well — all of them around the same issue: Platforms.
No, I am not talking about the shoes of the 1970s we loved so much, I am talking about the intermediate layer of the cloud model – Platforms used to deploy applications.
I wrote about Chatter back in November, and Genesys couple of weeks ago — and in both I expressed my firm belief that ...
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likes the PaaS concept and thinks it could be applied to online media as well. Hhmmm - http://bit.ly/cfWW9A
Craig,
Firsts, apologies for taking so long to reply — just saw this today.
While I agree with you, in principle, in the standard behavior for the vendors mentioned, I may be a bit more hopeful this time around. If what you say were to carry some weight, then Microsoft Azure would have already become the de-facto platform for cloud projects — which has not. I still believe
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Great article Esteban and what a great discussion!
You’re correct that the platform layer of the cloud will see much development in the near future. I fear that competitive pressures will create a world we’ve seen before… Several major platforms that don’t play nicely together – i.e. Windows vs. Mac
Microsoft, Salesforce, Google and Oracle are all creating
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Nenshad,
Thanks for a great comment. Here is my position on the issue of database (I have been trying to raise this issue for a very long time now, few understand the issue of data storage and data management, and how complex it gets really quickly): I do believe we are at least 2-3 years from seeing the incipient ideas I highlighted above make it into the market somehow. I have began to see
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Venky,
Thanks for the read and comment. I am not sure how the industries will react — but i’d prefer not to ask them I’d prefer to do what needs to be done and if someone needs to use stronger security or better collaboration tools they can find it. The main message I had was about leveraging the platforms instead of re-inventing the wheels each time. I sure hope ti happens
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Hi Esteban,
Great post, but I never expect less from you. I have mentioned to people multiple times that without forethought, what is happening in the cloud looks EXACTLY like what happened in the early 2000’s: customers bought PeopleSoft for HR, Siebel for CRM, SAP for ERP, and none of it worked together, so then they used duct tapes and band-aids to try to turn the point-to-point mess
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Well thought post, Esteban.
In all the scary thought of security on the cloud, the open source app call is well thought. I really wonder how the different industries that this platform will have to serve really react. Businesses need to understand the pains of IT but will IT be able to live up to business expectations vis-avis its painpoints? That remains to be seen.
Though SFDC –
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Phil,
Been working on that “simple chart” for about 4 months now It is part of a report called “The cloud for CRM Dummies” (working title, be glad to change it).
Problem is time available… will see if i can take one of those charts and make a post out of it quickly.
Stay tuned! (thanks for the twitter follow and the read here)

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Ryan,
Yes, absolutely, 100% you cannot just say web services. Actually, you can — as long as you have the proper infrastructure (the three layers of the cloud) leveraging them in an open, dynamic, and flexible model to develop against.
Thanks for the kudos, but more important for validating my point that this is something that others are seeing / experiencing.
Thanks
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Robbert,
First, when you say “I hope other are vendors have been doing their homework in this area” in regards to integration, all I can say — that is my most sincere hope. Without the easy, open integration provided by leveraging the three layers of the cloud, there is not much benefit of using a cloud (other than marketing prowess of not having to call it on-demand). I
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Sameer,
Now, if you are truly going to push for a cloud-centric model the least you could do is warn the vendors what they are going to have to deliver. Oh, wait… I am going to do my part of pushing for this “glue” to bring it all together to be open and to follow the rules of the cloud model as much as possible. I hope others do the same.
And, btw, I agree with
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Not asking too much – v legitimate concern.
I’ll up the ante though:
This time around, lets please not have the platforms/infrastructure figure out how people need to work together. One ERP-gestapo’d interaction model per century is enough. -)
Lets make sure that these platforms/infrastructures are open (embrace APIs and Plugins) and let the coming convergence
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Integration? A problem in the cloud? Excellent post by @ekolsky: Why PaaS is the New Black - http://bit.ly/9rQaRe #SocBiz #Cloud #PaaS
Dear Esteban,
Rightly sad. There are interesting benefits in deploying your platforms and applications from the cloud, be it a public cloud, a private one or a combination of both. Either way, for any corporation using IT there will always be a need for integration between the various applications and data sources.
By experience I know that Salesforce is very keen on making integration
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I think you may be right about another “CORBA-style disappointment.” I’m not sure what the right solution is – you can’t just say web services.
At NetQuarry, this is something we discuss and struggle with daily, so thanks for the article – very smart in our opinion. The platform is the missing link in the current SaaS conversation.
Ryan Reid´s
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Why PaaS is the New Black: http://bit.ly/9rQaRe (build platforms right, pls) | Interesting thoughts by @ekolskly on platform trends...
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